In Asian culture, Ringu is scarier and it flows better, and in American culture The Ring is scarier and it flows better. Secondly (and more importantly), American exceptionalism. For me, Ringu is far superior, but it's all personal choice. The Ring! With the newest installment to The Grudge (as well as 2017’s Rings) it seems that these two seemingly forgotten Japanese remake franchise still have some life (or death) left in them. In Ringu it was Sadako, but in The Ring her name was Samara. The Ring: Infinity, though, is much more like the films, and the original book series. Ringu hands down. It is all about the endings. Steer clear of any wells and we'll get down to Ringu Vs. Ringu's characters are not quite as fleshed out, and I honestly prefer several aspects of The Ring to Ringu. That's the thing with Japanese horror. The US remakes them because they think they will find a larger audience using english speaking actors. And the effects of the remake are naff beyond belief, totally ruining the third act. The ending is better. The novel may have been inspired by two M.R. They’re fresh and different. ++Plus bonus points if you could please explain to me why the US just remakes almost every major Japanese horror-film instead of just localizing and dubbing them? In American horror there is often a single source of evil that can be defeated or evaded. It sports a number of disconcerting scenes. The Ring was one of the highest-grossing horror remakes, its box office gross surpassing that of Ring. I was confused at. Jumpscares are for the weak if it's the only thing that is used. Some American remakes are pretty good. There are only very few differences between the two film versions. The American version of The Ring worked so well because we were not used to the Japanese style of storytelling. The term is 'Yurei'. In The Ring the writers went to great lengths to try to dish out Samara’s character just right. Really good books.. the third one got a bit odd, but I liked it. If you haven’t seen either film yet, I’d start with the original Japanese version. The Ring is an American adaptation of the Japanese horror film Ringu. It works on a different level. The evil never really stops hunting you and you have no real hope of survival. Japanese horror is another beast though because it does not end. In this episode of the Film Face/Off we compare "Ringu" and "The Ring" to see which horror film did it better. We see her bedroom, more of her adoptive parent’s back story, the video archives when her parents put her in a mental institution and just more of why she became the way she was… evil. R/HORROR, known as Dreadit by our subscribers is the premier horror entertainment community on Reddit. Ringu hands down. Menu. The book slowly built up a good, tense atmosphere, while the movie just felt like it was padding out run time before dropping the big "oh shit!" I prefer the weird cold vibe. The cast of Rings will also be significantly different than the two films that came before it.Naomi Watts and David Dorfman, who played a mother and son attempting to … Ultimately, what stood out to me the most about was how the original character Sadako in Ringu compared to Samara in The Ring. Of which it didn't really do effectively anyway. Im going to tell you a little bit about what separates American and Japanese horror. It’s eerie. I prefer the weird cold vibe. I found Ringu to be the scarier of the two but I think The Ring is more interesting visually, more emotional, and, by putting a greater focus on the mystery rather than the horror, flows better. The film burns slow too, but drops the ball hard in being slow for the wrong reasons. Posted by 14 days ago. The horrors of reality will always win. Sadako vs. Kayako (貞子 vs 伽椰子, Sadako bāsasu Kayako) is a 2016 Japanese supernatural horror film directed by Kōji Shiraishi. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. But this attitude causes a lot of Americans to reject foreign productions as inferior. ( Log Out / The Ring is a remake of the Japanese horror film, Ringu. For more than a decade /R/HORROR has been reddit.com's gateway to all things Horror: from movies & TV, to books & games. I have to talk about the famous scene, where Samara / Sadako is actually seen by the viewer. Visual comparison between Hideo Nakata's Ringu (1998) and Gore Verbinski's The Ring (2002). The screenplay and direction of The Ring mainly stay faithful to the ones of Ringu, however, the final scenes, the seemingly disconnected images on the murderous videotape and the stories behind the videotape differ heavily. Just watch Ringu first....preferably late at night, in the dark. IMDb, the world's most popular and authoritative source for movie, TV and celebrity content. I will admit that they aren’t for everyone, but I definitely enjoyed them. Part of this might be the superior production quality of the American version. Furthermore, white people generally prefer to watch other white people. It might have been TOO complex for the average movie goer, or just more difficult to translate into film. 16. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. The Ring, a 2002 American re-make of a Japanese film called Ringu, is a wonderfully disquieting film. Dubbing is very distracting, because the mouth and the sound don't match. In general, both films are based on Koji Suzuki's novel Ring and focus on a mysterious cursed videotape that contains a seemingly random series of disturbing images. Press J to jump to the feed. I think the books are brilliant. ( Log Out / Ring is a fine film. It’s almost a necessity that I touch on the American remake, The Ring. It's basically an alternate ending to Sadako Vs. Kayako. Race isn’t an issue in either scene. The Ring is a great case study on how to improve on the original. But that's what the majority of the American audience flocks to. He could see and sense things that others could not, much like a type of extra-sensory perception (ESP). Unlike Ringu, we see her childhood more. The other good one in the series is Ring 0 (Japanese). Between the films I like The Ring better. Have you seen that one? Ringu vs The Ring I recently re-watched both The Ring and Ringu and find myself thinking, for the first time ever, that The Ring is the better of the two. Each scene has its own cinematic merits, Ringu making the most of fewer resources, and The Ring achieving a visually stunning sequence built on that basis. Both films are different in their own way, but they are also very similar. ( Log Out / The US remakes all kinds of films, not just Japanese horror. Boring as hell. Doesn't bother me, but then I don't have a prescription. ( Log Out / There's a major theme in American culture that we are the best country in the universe, even though the statistics show a lot of discrepancies there. The sound effects are minimal, and you mostly hear Kayako's moans. Don't bother with the rest. Ringu 2 is much better than The Ring 2, it has to be said. In the Japanese one, it's much more... realistic? If you can deal with watching a subtitled film, hands down, the Japanese one for eeries suspense, mystery and environmental fear. :S. I think it has something to do with wanting to relax your eyes and not have to be constantly focusing on subtitles. For those of you who struggle to watch sub-titled foreign films, The Ring is a decent enough rendition of the original which should enable the English speaking watcher to enjoy the story and frights delivered relatively well. The Ring (2002) Though it bears more similarities to the Japanese film than to the novel, it’s essentially a copy of a copy. If you're going to the theater outside of America, chances are you're going to watch a foreign movie. Story. Each time I loaded the game I would forget it was there and my heart would skip a beat. It's like, he had a mental breakdown during the end of Spiral and he just continued the insanity through into Loop. In the Japanese version, the ex-husband was a psychic. I'd say The Ring is one of few remakes that outshines its original material in certain ways. Japanese horror often deals with really intense themes like regret and sadness and family and growing up and abandonment (etc) and those are things that never really go away. I also threw in one scene from Hideo Nakata's Ringu 2 (1999). I saw the Ring when it came out and thought it was decent, and ended up reading the first three in the Ring book series a few years ago. I was thinking of watching "The Ring" until I found out that it's actually quote-unquote "inspired" by a Japanese film. The kind of thing you take a first date too ;) At the risk of sounding like a elitist twat, seasoned horror fans have kinda seen this all before and are usually looking for something subtler/weirder/more original. And the effects of the remake are naff beyond belief, totally ruining the third act. Ringu and The Ring both evoke fear by displaying the result of over consuming technology. Personally, I found Ringu to be a lot more frightening than The Ring even though I saw the remake first and it did scare me when I first watched the film. They changed a lot of the motives, it felt like it made less sense, the horse on the boat bit didn't gel with me and I was left confused rather than scared. Well, in general Ringu is slower paced and relies less on jump scares. https://monstersofmidian.wordpress.com/2015/04/26/the-ring-vs-ringu Look at the classics like Poltergeist and any 80s/90s horror movie that did not have a "twist" ending. Ringu's one of those movies I've needed to watch for years. In Ringu, they don’t really start explaining Sadako’s character until somewhere near the middle of the film, and to be honest I found her back story to be quite more vague, to say the least. The originals are much creepier and less reliant on jump scares. I encourage all of you who enjoy intelligent horror/suspense films to check this one out if you haven’t … New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. They're far more suited to cheesy scifi movies on broadcast TV that you laugh at with friends than a movie actually trying to create atmosphere and immersion. The difference, I think, is that Ringu is a shocking film, while The Ring is a horror film. The Ring vs. Ringu. First, and foremost, I like that The Ring leaves the ultimate interpretation of what "Samara" … Please help a guy out and tell me which is the best way to experience 'Ring'. The American one seems cheesy, but the Japanese one actually scares you. The Ring strips away a lot of the unnecessary plot points, like the male lead and his son having psychic powers (made even more rediculous in Ringu 2 when it's revealed his girlfriend is ALSO psychic). While some of the ideas (like the footage of the tape itself and the horse) might make little sense in an American film, the imagery is still scary and still good to watch. Presented by Cevetta for JPN369 In my analysis I am comparing the movie Ringu and how it incorporates its values from Japanese society, to its American counterpart The Ring and it's own portrayal of values. I hate to say, that an american horror movie is better than a japanese one, but The Ring destroys Ringu. The book is a slow burner that actually gets decently creepy. The book's plot is leaps and bounds more complex and interesting, but I understand to some extent why it was changed too. Horror used to have conclusions and you could leave the theatre knowing you had a scary experience but it ended like a ride. To me, there was some emotional distance felt in watching "Ringu" (I watched a subtitled version, so I didn't have any distracting dubbing) as opposed to "The Ring" which seemed to be a far more intimate experience to me. It didn't inspire The Ring, it was the original. Most horror connoisseurs would say that's a good thing, but in this particular instance I have to disagree. Following the success of this movie, it spawned its own sequel and introduced the Western … Movies. The Japanese one cemented a fear that I have to this very day - the ONLY THING in the fucking world that scares a fully grown adult BloodBride - Pale asian girls in white with long dark hair that avoid looking at you. It's just one scene, but it was a scene worth making a video for. Bottom line is, both of these versions are great films. Ring-O was actually a brilliant film too. There's even a giant mutant monster as the final boss, which is what everyone loved about the original Ringu — the giant mutant monster. Some times the intention is to make money, some times it's even noble - they see an amazing story and want to make it accessible to everyone. For Americans, however dubbing is extremely cringe-inducing (that's actually true for anyone who hasn't grown up with dubbed everything), and subtitles are just... "alien" - it's just not a natural part of the movie experience. Neither film does the book much justice, and neither really comes close to getting the plot right. And they scare me senseless. This is a culture-transcendent human instinct to destroy what we … The American one uses jump cuts and a convoluted plot. I liked The Ring and The Grudge and several other adaptations of foreign (not just Japanese) movies, but I've yet to see a remake that I thought was superior to the original. They are all about psychological horror. RING/U Does America just suck at horror movies? So in most places movies are similar with little change and even the ending part is similar too. Right in the beginning of the film, the two teenage girls are watching television, mindlessly flipping through channels on a television one says, I hate television,” as the other replies“ Pick something, I don’t care,” many of us fall victim to spending hours indulging on technical devices.These same devices we … If you’re looking to find something scary, eerie and unpredictable then you most definitely need to check these films out if you haven’t done so already. I know what you mean about the third one going odd, though. In Ringu, the cursed videotape was short and creepy… like something that came out of the depths of hell. I’ve seen literally hundreds of horror movies, and I was genuinely creeped out at the end of this one. For this film set review, I had several ideas about which direction I wanted to focus on for the two horror films. To actually answer your question both are really great films that are kind of at odds with each other thematically. Moment. I don't want to go into too much detail because it will spoil the film. The original versions are almost always better than the US remakes. I know that seems funny, but it just is. It is a crossover of the Ju-on and the Ring series. I'd personally advise avoiding the sequels to both series. First, production value. Ironic considering a certain plot device, but we’ll get to that later. Only thing to freak me out. I can't really go into more without ruining the ending, but when you see it you will know. Change ), You are commenting using your Twitter account. The production value is through the roof compared to Ringu, and it does more than enough to make it feel like its own movie. TV Shows. The Ring, on the other hand, is one of my favorite horror films of all time. While both left something to be desired in terms of reception and box office performance, both of these series were at the forefront of the Asian-Horror remake phase that was ever prevalent in the 2000’s. The names of the ghost in the two films were different as well. It's a very similar thing that happened with Parasite Eve. If you look at the two scenes from The Grudge / Ju-On where Kayako is crawling down the stairs. I felt The Ring evoked a more primal, old-school terror compared to Ringu, and honestly (mild spoilers to follow) I didn't much care for the way Ringu's plot is mostly pushed forward by psychic visions compared to The Ring where people actively try to figure out what's happening. ++Plus bonus points if you could please explain to me why the US just remakes almost every major Japanese horror-film instead of just localizing and dubbing them? In the Japanese one, it's a lot more subtle. The reason why America is an "exception" in this way is simply because watching "foreign" movies is natural to most non-Americans - Americans produce by far the most blockbuster movies and TV content, and those are "foreign" to everyone but Americans. Some times it translates relatively well (snowy dark lonely Sweden vs. snowy dark lonely rural Minnesota), some times it just sinks (like trying to translate the Korean family melodrama from A Tale of Two Sisters to American-style family drama in whatever was the name of the remake I'm trying to forget, or trying to remake any good Thai horror [which generally uses a very pervasive ghost culture/folklore as an underpinning] for a culture that doesn't take ghosts half as seriously). SPOILERS for the Juon franchise, the Ringu franchise, and the film, Sadako vs. Kayako. Haven't picked up Birthday or S yet. It was the first Japanese horror film I watched, and I have been hooked on Asian horror since. I've watched both, and I have to say that I enjoyed "The Ring" more than "Ringu". Change ), You are commenting using your Facebook account. Their curses have … I think that the ring is super close, but honestly produced better. I noticed distinct differences between the two in physical characteristics,… Close. Two sequels were made, including a short film. You can read summaries of both plots in Wikipedia by following links Ringu and The Ring. I won't say how due to spoilery reasons, but in the American one, they use a lot of unnecessary effects to make it scarier. I honestly have never had a problem with dubbing. I think it goes hand-in-hand with whatever it is that makes so many people reject foreign language films with the lazy excuse of "I don't want to read my movies." Ringu (Japanese film, 1998), directed by Hideo Nakata. Ringu creeped me out as well, especially Towel Man, who was missing from the American adaptation. The disclaimer here is I saw the American production before I saw the Japanese original and it's been quite a while, but I have to say that for me, there was a flatness to the Japanese original that made it largely ineffective at producing a good ambient mood. December 2, 2005 Lucy A. Snyder movie, movie review, Uncategorized 0. It's a vengeful spirit usually fueled by a murder or torture in life. Shat my pants while watching the remake. Sadako Yamamura (山村 貞子), also known as Park Eun-suh and Samara Morgan, is the main antagonist of Koji Suzuki's Ring novel series and the film franchise of the same name.Sadako's fictional history alternates between continuities, but all depict her as the vengeful ghost of a psychic who was murdered and thrown into a well. Release Calendar DVD & Blu-ray Releases Top Rated Movies Most Popular Movies Browse Movies by Genre Top Box Office Showtimes & Tickets Showtimes & Tickets In Theaters Coming Soon Coming Soon Movie News India Movie Spotlight. The original, or the remake. I had that scene as my L4D2 GUI background sequence. Change ). In the Americanized version, the son is the one who has the ESP. I have to say that Ju-On was one of the first films ever to seriously scare me. As awesome as it was, I had to remove it because it never stopped freaking me out. The Ring (2002) The Japanese horror film Ringu directed by Hideo Nakata was released in 1998, known as the most successful horror film in StudyMode - Premium and Free Essays, Term Papers & Book Notes The film was first teased as an April Fools' joke on April 1, 2015, but was later confirmed on December 10, 2015, to be a real production. Bonus points question: dubs are awful. Asian horror featuring this is the one thing I am legit fearful of watching and will be kept up by. In honor of our new weekly “Supernatural Saturdays” and it may be a little late, but MonstersOfMidian decided to do a topic on the Japanese supernatural thriller Ringu and it’s Americanized remake that came out in 2002 The Ring. Series - Ringu / The Ring. First we have Japan, THE Whilst vaguely entertaining they are both derivative and full of cheap scares. But Ringu? That said though, if someone ever remade the film and made it in the likeness of the book, it could be great. I actually thought that the sequel to Ringu wasn't horrible. So they remake movies that they feel would have been successful in the US, were it not for the foreign language. American horror can have happy endings. Ringu vs The Ring(U.S.) Review. However, in The Ring the cursed videotape shows so much symbolism and so many more graphic images than the videotape in the original showed. Change ), You are commenting using your Google account. I enjoyed Ringu just for the fact that I thought it was scarier and had a more eerie feel to it. But it doesn't really follow the book that well anyway, so they should have just taken a different, more entertaining approach. It was released in Japan on June 18, 2016, Indonesia in August 10, 2016 (followed by 4DX in February 15, 2017), and in North American on the streaming site Shudder on January 26, 2017. Ringu (1998) vs. American audiences equate quality with slick effects and pristine footage. The Ring is a series of novels by Japanese writer Koji Suzuki that details a mysterious curse caused by a woman named Sadako Yamamura. As far as why we remake all these movies, I believe it's because a) a lot of people can't be bothered with subtitles, and b) movies in American theaters make a lot more money when they have recognizable actors in them. I assure you, you will not be disappointed. The Ring vs. The American one did not transfer that fear properly. In the end survival in a Japanese horror movie is just delaying the inevitable. As a result, Hollywood has to produce new American versions if they want any hope of capturing American movie dollars. That's just the way I feel about it. Another difference of the two would be the ex-husbands. Again, in the American one, there's a lot more music and sound effects to accompany the crawling. “Ringu” is one of my favourite films, and I … Or, they just think they can make the movies better. Ringu seems almost like a David Lynch movie: a series of barely connected nightmares (though it's a … More people are going to pay to see Buffy the Vampire Slayer in The Grudge than some actress whose name they can't even pronounce, much less recognize. The Ring is one of those very few movies where the US remake is better than the original. They don't go for the jump scares like we do. Ringu was a slow burn, which is fine as the book is as well. However, having read the actual novel, Ringu, they both fall flat compared to it. Lots of people won't watch sub-titled movies - even among the fully literate - which baffles me. Immediately after viewing the videotape, the viewers will receive a phone call, ensuring their death within seven days. Enjoy! XD. Ringu, however, was actually based on a novel called Ring written by Kôji Suzuki who also helped co-write both versions of the film. Ringu vs. People there are already used to watching subbed/dubbed movies all the time, subtitles/dubbing is part of the movie experience (FWIW, I'm originally from a country that dubs content for TV and subtitles it for theaters). I actually think that sometimes it actually hurts American productions, because the end product looks too good and too clean, losing any visceral qualities and grit. If you watch lots of foreign movies, it may even feel natural, but as a part of a "foreign movie experience", which is still a separate mental model from regular popcorn moviegoing. :3. Ironically these same people love 3D....? Visual comparison between Hideo Nakata's Ringu 2 (1999) and The Ring (2005). ++There's a theory that the US remakes Japanese and Korean horror films because the movie industry honestly believes that westerners are lazy and won't want to watch with subtitles. We use cookies on our websites for a number of purposes, including analytics and performance, functionality and advertising. The Grudge Is a Real Movie That Exists (and Is Pretty Good) Welcome to all your 2004 nightmares finally made real. Ringu is older, so might take a while to get into, but I think it's much better. Reiko, a TV reporter and single mom becomes involved with a cursed … Only nightmare fuel I have. Koji Suzuki is such a unique writer. Now, my reasoning behind like Ring better than Ringu is that it was just more overall entertaining. A wider audience wants a popcorn horror with jump scares, no subtitles and slick effects. It didn't inspire The Ring, it was the original. 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